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Post WWI, how did Hitler get Germany powerful enough to kick Europe's ass?

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Non sequitur
  03/13/18
German military got obliterated by the Treaty of Versailles....
Krampusnacht
  03/13/18
Does a Tiger forget how to hunt and dominate bcos it was inj...
...,,....,,.,,,..,,,,...
  03/13/18
Why’d they lose ww1 so bad then
Non sequitur
  03/13/18
they almost won!
Krampusnacht
  03/13/18
WW1 was very close and arguably if they hadn't gone all-in o...
CharlesXII
  03/13/18
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Driving back in silence from retirement home
  03/13/18
amazing to wonder about how that would have changed history
Toro XI
  03/13/18
French didn't collapse so as soon as it dragged on past the ...
wait till biggus dickus hears of this
  03/13/18
they didn't lose bad. WTF? when WWI ended they were still de...
...,,....,,.,,,..,,,,...
  03/13/18
Lmao sorry Count Schlieffen but you can't go 0-2 and be a GO...
wait till biggus dickus hears of this
  03/13/18
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Non sequitur
  03/13/18
Stfu nigger
Bedroom Bully
  03/13/18
Der Schlieffenplan BTFO lmao
lawdads8
  03/13/18
(Jim_Kelly)
The Man on the Sybian
  03/13/18
He mostly didn't. The German military was hopelessly outmatc...
CharlesXII
  03/13/18
What is the 99th percentile outcome here? What was the risk...
HoldUpHoldUpWhat
  03/13/18
Case Yellow risked everything on a decisive blow that would ...
CharlesXII
  03/13/18
I don't think you're giving enough credit to Germany's abili...
Krampusnacht
  03/13/18
"Modernize" weapons? German tech was inferior to a...
CharlesXII
  03/13/18
Betting on the french failing is not a gamble.
Drunkard
  03/13/18
You know, if you ignore that the Germans were defeated by th...
CharlesXII
  03/13/18
The french were terrible in WWI, the Germans were defeated b...
Drunkard
  03/13/18
I thought their tigers were head and shoulders above anythin...
Non sequitur
  03/13/18
Those came later.
Drunkard
  03/13/18
Tiger was only fielded from 1942 onward, and tbh it was a pr...
CharlesXII
  03/13/18
I think you overstate the difficulties. Of the British expe...
owl dood
  03/13/18
not a fan of this particular nugget of conventional wisdom. ...
Krampusnacht
  03/13/18
Yes that is exactly what I think. Makes a negotiated outcom...
owl dood
  03/13/18
can you recommend some good books on the various military hi...
Maori woman performing defiant haka
  03/13/18
The Blitzkrieg Legend is good for Case Yellow.
CharlesXII
  03/13/18
If it wasn't for the USSR, America would have been pwned
LAPD officer on paid administrative leave
  03/13/18
Unlikely. The war would have been much bloodier for them but...
CharlesXII
  03/13/18
American public would have no stomach to lose 10 million men...
:D
  03/13/18
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TM..,..;;.
  03/13/18
A direct German-US war would not result in nearly that many ...
Mud
  03/13/18
britain was getting their poops shoved in by the nazis am...
LAPD officer on paid administrative leave
  03/13/18
uh wtf Americans easily pushed Nazis out of Africa, Italy...
,..,...,,,.,.;.,.,..,,.,.,.;.,.,.,
  03/13/18
Lol no they didn't Nigger
irl john rocker
  03/13/18
The Germans enjoyed a 3 to 1 kill ratio over the US.
ARE Reptile
  03/13/18
80% of German casualties attributed to Russia. How realistic...
'"''''"''""
  03/13/18
USA/UK did lose 800K men. 800K/.2 = 4 million.
:D
  03/13/18
How many of those 800k died in the Pacific and China/Burma t...
'"''''"''""
  03/13/18
Unclear if we would have nuked a white country.
The DJT USSF INTERGALACTIC JUGGERNAUT
  03/13/18
We absolutely would have.
CharlesXII
  03/13/18
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LAPD officer on paid administrative leave
  03/13/18
Interesting scholarship itt
Non sequitur
  03/13/18
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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: Non sequitur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592515)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Krampusnacht

German military got obliterated by the Treaty of Versailles. The best military minds in Germany were forced to economize and brainstorm ways that they could win wars through better tactics and technology. The Weimar Republic also signed a treaty with Russia allowing them to test German weapons on Soviet soil where Allied observers couldn't see it.

Then Hitler inherited this situation and gave everyone more money to build planes, tanks, and ships.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592549)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: ...,,....,,.,,,..,,,,...

Does a Tiger forget how to hunt and dominate bcos it was injured for a short period of time?

Germany pwned Europe for centuries. WWII was just continuing the trend

if not for US entering WWI Germany would have been ruling Europe (no nazis, no hitler, no shitlibs)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592566)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: Non sequitur

Why’d they lose ww1 so bad then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592571)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Krampusnacht

they almost won!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592584)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

WW1 was very close and arguably if they hadn't gone all-in on sub warfare in 1917 they'd have pulled it off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592594)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Driving back in silence from retirement home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592596)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: Toro XI

amazing to wonder about how that would have changed history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35594855)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: wait till biggus dickus hears of this

French didn't collapse so as soon as it dragged on past the first few months Germany was living on borrowed time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592598)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: ...,,....,,.,,,..,,,,...

they didn't lose bad. WTF? when WWI ended they were still deep into french territory and no enemy had ever set foot on Germany on the western front

they lost because US entered the war. simple. and also bcos they fucked up the early part of invasion of france but would have still won WWI if not for US. france was almost ready to give up in 1916

Considering size, geography, population, natural resources Germany in WWI/WWII would go down as GOAT military nation in modern history. US would be a clear NUMBAH TWO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592599)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: wait till biggus dickus hears of this

Lmao sorry Count Schlieffen but you can't go 0-2 and be a GOAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592617)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 1:23 AM
Author: Non sequitur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592930)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 11:45 AM
Author: Bedroom Bully (All poasts are performance art )

Stfu nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35594658)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 11:49 AM
Author: lawdads8

Der Schlieffenplan BTFO lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35594708)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 8:29 AM
Author: The Man on the Sybian

(Jim_Kelly)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35593530)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

He mostly didn't. The German military was hopelessly outmatched by the Western Allies. Necessity forced them to take an insane gamble that worked because it hit a 99th percentile outcome (total breakthrough, Allies captured en masse, French morale disintegrates). After the France victory all they did was beat up on European shit-states or lose. They lost the Battle of Britain, lost in N Africa, and lost in the USSR. The war's outcome was not seriously in doubt post-1941.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592572)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: HoldUpHoldUpWhat

What is the 99th percentile outcome here? What was the risky play that worked out, specifically?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592593)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:31 AM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

Case Yellow risked everything on a decisive blow that would knock out France instantly. To do this, they needed:

-the Allies to flood up into the Low Countries in response to the initial attack

-surprise in the Ardennes

-A rapid breakthrough to cross the Meuse and clear relevant fortifications before the Allies could react

-At least evenly-matched air strength despite being outnumbered

-No Allied counterattack in strength to sever the breakthrough

If the attack bogged down at all Germany would have been screwed and its economy would have started to fall apart pretty fast. The WW2 German economy was much weaker relative to its enemies than the WW1 German economy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592625)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: Krampusnacht

I don't think you're giving enough credit to Germany's ability to modernize tactics and weapons in a way that allowed them to have local superiority at the point of attack

sounds obvious but France completely failed to do this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592639)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:55 AM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

"Modernize" weapons? German tech was inferior to allied tech in many ways. More than half of their tanks were Panzer I's or II's; the former only had a machine gun and the latter a shitty 20mm gun. French and British tanks were typically superior machines. It's also a myth that the French spread out their tanks too much; their 800+ heavy tanks (compare to 240 Panzer IVs) were collected in just a few divisions while shit tanks were the ones spread out.

The same goes for Allied planes, which were perfectly good and more than capable of winning an engagement with the Germans (after all, the British outfought the Germans in the Battle of Britain just months later). French air forces were just hopelessly disorganized and badly run which hindered their effectiveness.

Germany did have good battle tactics but the sickle cut maneuver was still a huge gamble, and if it had been anything less than a total and immediate success Germany would have imploded. Being better than the Allies wasn't enough. They had to be better AND the French had to be catastrophically ineffective at key points AND they needed a bit of luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592760)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 1:04 AM
Author: Drunkard

Betting on the french failing is not a gamble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592802)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

You know, if you ignore that the Germans were defeated by the French in the previous war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592855)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 1:20 AM
Author: Drunkard

The french were terrible in WWI, the Germans were defeated by their own internal strife.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592901)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: Non sequitur

I thought their tigers were head and shoulders above anything on the field

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592868)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 1:20 AM
Author: Drunkard

Those came later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592905)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 1:28 AM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

Tiger was only fielded from 1942 onward, and tbh it was a pretty poor weapon system. It was so heavy it couldn't be driven across many bridges and needed to be shipped by rail. It was overengineered and always breaking down from lack of parts. It was really costly to build for what theGermans got out of it. Tbh they would have been better off just making more Panther and Panzer IV-type tanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592963)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:34 AM
Author: owl dood

I think you overstate the difficulties. Of the British expeditionary army could have been destroyed (it almost was and probably could have been) the outcome may have been drastically different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592644)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:37 AM
Author: Krampusnacht

not a fan of this particular nugget of conventional wisdom. unless you believe that the annihilation of the BEF would have caused the British to come to the negotiation table with Hitler, that loss would have been irrelevant by 1944.

it's not like the 1940 BEF dudes were the ones who stormed Normandy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592659)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: owl dood

Yes that is exactly what I think. Makes a negotiated outcome far more likely. Dunkirk was a propaganda coup. Its only evident in hindsight as one might see a certain logic that the Brits would be more willing to negotiate... This was Hitler's greatest mistake. He basically cucked out wrt the bef. And I think this mistake guided a lot of his later decisions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592694)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:48 AM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

can you recommend some good books on the various military histories of world wars 1 and 2?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592719)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 1:12 AM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

The Blitzkrieg Legend is good for Case Yellow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592858)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: LAPD officer on paid administrative leave (, using taxpayer $$$ to invest in Bitcoin)

If it wasn't for the USSR, America would have been pwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592607)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

Unlikely. The war would have been much bloodier for them but the degree to which America + Britain by themselves outproduced the Germans was incredible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592637)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: :D (5000 mcg B12/wk, 150 mcg iodine/day, 250 mg algal DHA-EPA/day)

American public would have no stomach to lose 10 million men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592648)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:46 AM
Author: TM..,..;;.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592709)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 8:22 AM
Author: Mud

A direct German-US war would not result in nearly that many casualities. The Soviets only lost that many because they purposely fought a war of attrition.

Both the USA and Germany avoided that on the western front. Especially since both of those countries didn’t fear the other would commit mass attrocities like the Germans and Russians were doing to each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35593515)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:35 AM
Author: LAPD officer on paid administrative leave (, using taxpayer $$$ to invest in Bitcoin)

britain was getting their poops shoved in by the nazis

american soldiers were no match for the nazi soldiers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592649)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: ,..,...,,,.,.;.,.,..,,.,.,.;.,.,.,


uh wtf

Americans easily pushed Nazis out of Africa, Italy, and France.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35592970)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 5:29 AM
Author: irl john rocker

Lol no they didn't Nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35593372)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 8:24 AM
Author: ARE Reptile

The Germans enjoyed a 3 to 1 kill ratio over the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35593519)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 3:16 AM
Author: '"''''"''""


80% of German casualties attributed to Russia. How realistic do you think it would be to expect US and Britain to accept 2 million dead to take Germany?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35593254)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 5:38 AM
Author: :D (5000 mcg B12/wk, 150 mcg iodine/day, 250 mg algal DHA-EPA/day)

USA/UK did lose 800K men. 800K/.2 = 4 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35593379)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 8:04 AM
Author: '"''''"''""


How many of those 800k died in the Pacific and China/Burma theaters?

I should have said 2 million more dead. Probably US/UK victory would have realistically been more efficient than Russia because of atomic bombs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35593484)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 11:44 AM
Author: The DJT USSF INTERGALACTIC JUGGERNAUT

Unclear if we would have nuked a white country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35594653)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

We absolutely would have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35595934)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: LAPD officer on paid administrative leave (, using taxpayer $$$ to invest in Bitcoin)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35594625)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:03 PM
Author: Non sequitur

Interesting scholarship itt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35594828)



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Date: March 13th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: .,.,.:..,:,.,..:.,.,:,..:.,:,..:.,.,:.,,..:,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3917042&forum_id=2#35594852)